Thursday, March 09, 2006

ESCLJ - A STUDY if you WISH

Subject : To study or not to study or It was the best of times or the worst of times.


Hello Visitor and welcome,
I hope all is well with everyone. We have a study group called ESCLJ-a study group and have been such since 1986 and would like to submit a study from time to time for your viewing and comments among each other. It may help to have a view outside the group which is open to both disscussion and peer review without the problem of offending anyone in your study, this will help put others at ease since the view is not one of the Northampton but an outsider. I will assume it to be ok and introduce who we are and a study. As I have stated we are ESCLJ and our goal is to encourage others in the study of the Bible and you have an extra advantage as I am from the South, one of those conservative rednecks that Jeff Foxworthy warns you about. The advantage is you get my/our views and are able to understand or disregard such views as a class without conflict, your very own conservative Christian to pick at or maybe to learn to accept and enjoy some of the views. This is not a presupposation that I/we would not be accepted but not offended if adverse opinons ensue, I am so glad to see your study grow and that is my encouragment in you. I am not a thumper in which Bible a person should read as there are those who read for different purposes. I would commend you research 3 or 4 and then use such in your study. The Bible I use is of course that old King James Version (not the 1611 edition) in todays english language which came about after 1611, and the reason I use it? I have found the style, capitalization, grammatical punctuation, etc... to be more exact in both knowledge and understanding, but be that what it may ( southern idiotype ) you make your own choice of course. Capitalization Matters? In John chapter 20 verses 13,18,20,25,28 (hereafter read as John 20:13-28 to conserve space), Jesus is addressed as LORD with all caps which now emphasis both his resurrection and glorification and the only place in the new testament performed as such, that I am aware. Thomas in v.28 addresses Christ as, My LORD and my God, which states his direct linkage to the Godhead and adds more definition to the concept found in Isaiah *42:8 (*thats what I am talking about) -
I am the LORD: that is my name: and my glory will I not give to another, neither my praise to graven images. - Isaiah 42:8
So what does "glory" have to do with it ( or as Tina the Turner would say, "Whats love got to do with it?"), noticed that which Christ spoke unto God when in prayer in the garden ( by the way Adam/Eve were in the garden when they spoke with God).
I have glorified thee on the earth: I have finished the work which thou gavest me to do. And now, O Father, glorify thou me with thine own self with the glory which I had with thee before the world was. ..... & ....Father, glorify thy name. Then came there a voice from heaven, saying, I have both glorified it, and will glorify it again. The people therefore, that stood by , and heard it, said that it thundered: others said, An angel spake to him. Jesus answered and said, This voice came not because of me, but for your sakes. -John 17:4-5 & John 12:28-30
In John 20 (verses listed above) the caps of the LORD are indicative of the glorification of the resurrection of Christ, unfortunately not all versions irregardless of the publishers show the name of the Lord in all caps which has been lost in re-publications of the Bible, however, there are a few that still show the caps some are in the NIV (New International Version) and in the publisher of Thomas Nelson version 575 and a few others of the KJV (King James Version) have the all caps noted but not all of KJV do so even with the Nelson versions.
Christ stated in Matthew, that he would not drink of the fruit of the vine until he drink it anew with them in his Father's kingdom (see Matthew 26:29), however, in John 21:13 he ate bread and fish with his disciples but did not drink wine. Was the wine fermented or alcoholic? yes.
Contrary to what some say it is shown to be with strength in Acts 2:13-15 as those that were filled with the Holy Spirit were supposed drunken with new wine, however, the Proverbs state that wine is a mocker and a deceiver unto men which lays them in the end unto ruin and death. In Acts 10:41 some state this is quoting that Jesus ate and drink with the disciples but look closely at the wording, it state his disciples ate and drank but it does not state that Christ did. Why the emphasis on such a small matter, because God is a God of the small things-
Not to all the people, but unto witnesss chosen before of God, even to us, who did eat and drink with him after he rose from the dead. -Acts 10:41
he speaks in a small still voice, the atom and the splitting thereof creates the biggest bang for your bucks (he is redneck this writer), and stirs the wind for those who sow to the wind. The only other place where Jesus partakes of the wine is at the marriage supper of the Lamb which verifies the scripture found in 1 Corinthians 15:24-28.
Then cometh the end, when he shall have delivered up the kingdom to God, even the Father; when he shall have put down all rule and all authority and power. 1 Corinthians 15:24
This will enter the Kingdom of the Father which culminates with the Judgment seat of God at the Great White Throne in Revelation 20:12 - now a small list of interests you may want to pursue:
1. How many stones did David take into battle with Goliath? Why?
2. Is there a place in the scriptures which are suggestive of frozen animation or suspended?
Deuteronomy 24
3. God (above) stated he would glorify Christ again when was the first time?
4. John was told he would prophesy again before many kings, people, nations, and tounges
when was the first time? and the second? John 21 and Revelation 10:8-11
5. As high school students you should be able to explain the definition of "Time" in lieu of the
verses in James 1:12-15 and Genesis 3 when does time begin?
6. Adam and Eve were both called Adam in the beginning - why?
7. If God institutes marriage in Genesis 1 what would the enemy of God institute and why?
8. In the movie Steel Magnolias Shirley Mcclain notes a prominent figure whose picture is to
on display in the museum which had six fingers and six toes on each hand and foot-who
in the scriptures had the same (a gimme see question 1)
If you like this type of study let me know and I will forward more, however, I do not push my/our views except in trying to encourage. If there are any grammatical or language problems feel free to correct. My email is sheptalk2007@yahoo.com and we shall be in prayer for your study group and don't forget to ask what does ESCLJ stand for? By the way, did you hear the one about the rabbi, the Christian, and the bar? Me neither and isn't that refreshing. Have a great day.
span - I am

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