Tuesday, July 11, 2006

DISAPPEARING ON LINE


TO DISAPPEAR ON LINE

Speak unto the congregation, saying, Get you up from about the tabernacle of Korah, Dathan, and Abiram. Numbers 16:24
In this place Korah is representative of the Babylon or Rome of today to which Korah had stated unto Moses that he could speak for God just as well as Moses could and so a separation occurred in that God told Moses to “Get you up” which illustrates a type of “Rapture” and I do know the word “rapture” is not found in the Bible but it is being used by this writer in place of the words which are found in Thessalonians that the reader may understand the message which is being conveyed.
13 But I would not have you to be ignorant, brethren, concerning them which are asleep, that ye sorrow not, even as others which have no hope.
14 For if we believe that Jesus died and rose again, even so them also which sleep in Jesus will God bring with him.
15 For this we say unto you by the word of the Lord, that we which are alive and remain unto the coming of the Lord shall not prevent them which are asleep.
16 For the Lord himself shall descend from heaven with a shout, with the voice of the archangel, and with the trump of God: and the dead in Christ shall rise first:
17 Then we which are alive and remain shall be caught up together with them in the clouds, to meet the Lord in the air: and so shall we ever be with the Lord.
18 Wherefore comfort one another with these words.
The words in line or verse 17 which are “caught up” are the words which “rapture” is referring to, let the reader understand.
rap•ture (răp'chər)
n.
1. The state of being transported by a lofty emotion; ecstasy.
2. An expression of ecstatic feeling. Often used in the plural.
3. The transporting of a person from one place to another, especially to heaven.
Here is the definition of the rapture so that it can be verified in line 3 to which I speak about.
7 Even as Sodom and Gomorrha, and the cities about them in like manner, giving themselves over to fornication, and going after strange flesh, are set forth for an example, suffering the vengeance of eternal fire.
8 Likewise also these filthy dreamers defile the flesh, despise dominion, and speak evil of dignities.
9 Yet Michael the archangel, when contending with the devil he disputed about the body of Moses, durst not bring against him a railing accusation, but said, The Lord rebuke thee.
10 But these speak evil of those things which they know not: but what they know naturally, as brute beasts, in those things they corrupt themselves.
11 Woe unto them! for they have gone in the way of Cain, and ran greedily after the error of Balaam for reward, and perished in the gainsaying of Core.
This Core is the same rendering as Korah to which Moses tried to plead with in Numbers 16 (above) but the subject matter at hand is the “Rapture” of the church. It does not matter how you read in or out of the subject one thing is for sure there are a lot of disappearances shown in the new testament and you will have to account for them somehow to make sense of it all.
10 And the disciples came, and said unto him, Why speakest thou unto them in parables?
11 He answered and said unto them, Because it is given unto you to know the mysteries of the kingdom of heaven, but to them it is not given.
12 For whosoever hath, to him shall be given, and he shall have more abundance: but whosoever hath not, from him shall be taken away even that he hath.
13 Therefore speak I to them in parables: because they seeing see not; and hearing they hear not, neither do they understand.
14 And in them is fulfilled the prophecy of Esaias, which saith, By hearing ye shall hear, and shall not understand; and seeing ye shall see, and shall not perceive:
15 For this people's heart is waxed gross, and their ears are dull of hearing, and their eyes they have closed; lest at any time they should see with their eyes and hear with their ears, and should understand with their heart, and should be converted, and I should heal them.
16 But blessed are your eyes, for they see: and your ears, for they hear.
(all emphasis are of the writer – mine) In this place, Jesus is showing that unto those who will receive his truth to them the mysteries of heaven are given, in other words, those who will not see will not see, they have closed their eyes, ears and hearts to that which is revealed as they do assert their own view over that of the scriptures.


41 The Son of man shall send forth his angels, and they shall gather out of his kingdom all things that offend, and them which do iniquity;
42 And shall cast them into a furnace of fire: there shall be wailing and gnashing of teeth.
Christ is sending forth his angels in this position which can only occur at the end of the seven year tribulation period as the righteous are left upon the earth (readings Matthew 13:10-16 and 41-42) every word that God has placed in the Bible is extremely important (this is why I use the KJV but am not a thumper)
1 Then shall the kingdom of heaven be likened unto ten virgins, which took their lamps, and went forth to meet the bridegroom. Matthew 25:1-13
2 And five of them were wise, and five were foolish.
3 They that were foolish took their lamps, and took no oil with them:
4 But the wise took oil in their vessels with their lamps.
5 While the bridegroom tarried, they all slumbered and slept.
6 And at midnight there was a cry made, Behold, the bridegroom cometh; go ye out to meet him.
7 Then all those virgins arose, and trimmed their lamps.
8 And the foolish said unto the wise, Give us of your oil; for our lamps are gone out.
9 But the wise answered, saying, Not so; lest there be not enough for us and you: but go ye rather to them that sell, and buy for yourselves.
10 And while they went to buy, the bridegroom came; and they that were ready went in with him to the marriage: and the door was shut.
11 Afterward came also the other virgins, saying, Lord, Lord, open to us.
12 But he answered and said, Verily I say unto you, I know you not.
13 Watch therefore, for ye know neither the day nor the hour wherein the Son of man cometh.
These which had enough oil (the Holy Spirit as told in John 3 & 4) were taken but those whom had returned to buy more (Holy Spirit cannot be bought) were left behind Matthew 25:1-13
15 Who, when they were come down, prayed for them, that they might receive the Holy Ghost:
16 (For as yet he was fallen upon none of them: only they were baptized in the name of the Lord Jesus.)
17 Then laid they their hands on them, and they received the Holy Ghost.
18 And when Simon saw that through laying on of the apostles' hands the Holy Ghost was given, he offered them money,
19 Saying, Give me also this power, that on whomsoever I lay hands, he may receive the Holy Ghost.
20 But Peter said unto him, Thy money perish with thee, because thou hast thought that the gift of God may be purchased with money.
21 Thou hast neither part nor lot in this matter: for thy heart is not right in the sight of God.
22 Repent therefore of this thy wickedness, and pray God, if perhaps the thought of thine heart may be forgiven thee.
23 For I perceive that thou art in the gall of bitterness, and in the bond of iniquity.
24 Then answered Simon, and said, Pray ye to the Lord for me, that none of these things which ye have spoken come upon me. ACTS 8:15-24
And the 5 wise virgins were taken but were they not all virgins and did they not all go to meet the bridegroom but only 5 had the Holy Spirit (John 3 & 4).
39 And knew not until the flood came, and took them all away; so shall also the coming of the Son of man be.
40 Then shall two be in the field; the one shall be taken, and the other left.
41 Two women shall be grinding at the mill; the one shall be taken, and the other left.
42 Watch therefore: for ye know not what hour your Lord doth come.
43 But know this, that if the goodman of the house had known in what watch the thief would come, he would have watched, and would not have suffered his house to be broken up. Matthew 24:39-43
This can only apply to the Rapture for two reasons
1. It is the Lord (capital L) meaning Jesus Christ who came and took them away
2. The ones who were left were unsaved and not removed by the angels which we noted above
Words are important details are necessary for understanding and in Acts 1 we are given a detail which denotes the rapture
7 And he said unto them, It is not for you to know the times or the seasons, which the Father hath put in his own power.
8 But ye shall receive power, after that the Holy Ghost is come upon you: and ye shall be witnesses unto me both in Jerusalem, and in all Judaea, and in Samaria, and unto the uttermost part of the earth.
9 And when he had spoken these things, while they beheld, he was taken up; and a cloud received him out of their sight.
10 And while they looked stedfastly toward heaven as he went up, behold, two men stood by them in white apparel;
11 Which also said, Ye men of Galilee, why stand ye gazing up into heaven? this same Jesus, which is taken up from you into heaven, shall so come in like manner as ye have seen him go into heaven.
12 Then returned they unto Jerusalem from the mount called Olivet, which is from Jerusalem a sabbath day's journey. Acts 1: 7-12
Christ is telling those whom are gathered in this place with Him that they are not to know the “times or the seasons” this will only be revealed when the “time” is right which is now, let the reader understand. Christ was taken up by a cloud showing that as he was removed from the earth so too will his church be removed from the earth. Note: In 1 Thessalonians 4:17:
Then we which are alive and remain shall be caught up together with them in the clouds to meet the Lord in the air: and so shall we ever be with the Lord. Wherefore comfort one another with these words. 1 Thessalonians 4:17-18
Are we to know the times and the seasons of Christ return and can the “rapture” be proven in heaven? Most assuredly.
1 But of the times and the seasons, brethren, ye have no need that I write unto you.
2 For yourselves know perfectly that the day of the Lord so cometh as a thief in the night.
3 For when they shall say, Peace and safety; then sudden destruction cometh upon them, as travail upon a woman with child; and they shall not escape.
4 But ye, brethren, are not in darkness, that that day should overtake you as a thief.
5 Ye are all the children of light, and the children of the day: we are not of the night, nor of darkness.
6 Therefore let us not sleep, as do others; but let us watch and be sober. 1 Thessalonians 5:1-6
And in heaven the church is entered into the marriage of the Lamb as spoken above in Matthew 25:10 and in Revelation we find these words of the “redeemed of the blood of Christ”
6 And I beheld, and, lo, in the midst of the throne and of the four beasts, and in the midst of the elders, stood a Lamb as it had been slain, having seven horns and seven eyes, which are the seven Spirits of God sent forth into all the earth. Revelation 5:6-10
7 And he came and took the book out of the right hand of him that sat upon the throne.
8 And when he had taken the book, the four beasts and four and twenty elders fell down before the Lamb, having every one of them harps, and golden vials full of odours, which are the prayers of saints.
9 And they sung a new song, saying, Thou art worthy to take the book, and to open the seals thereof: for thou wast slain, and hast redeemed us to God by thy blood out of every kindred, and tongue, and people, and nation;
10 And hast made us unto our God kings and priests: and we shall reign on the earth.
Give note in verse 9 that these were the redeemed out of every kindred, tongue, people, and nation because they are a peculiar people, a holy nation, and they are kindred by the Spirit as one and have one tongue which is in unison unto God, these are all singular notations for a reason and the reason is the onemanship with the Father unlike that mentioned in Revelation 10:11 which denotes the soon to be ministry of the John the Beloved but now who retains the title of John the Revelator.

4 comments:

spantalk said...

Tried to visit your website but the only hit I got from the seven star hand was that of books for sale. will try again later thank you for the visit and comments.

Raby said...

For the Lord himself shall descend from heaven with a shout, with the voice of the archangel, and with the trump of God: and the dead in Christ shall rise first

It is just right here that the Rapture Doctrined fold into a crumpled wad of waste paper: The Lord shall descend with a shout. This is the promised appearing a second time prophecied in Hebrews 9:28. There is no other coming promised in Scripture. This event is the same described in I Cor 15:23 and 52-55. Paul says "WE" which includes himself. He further closes the door for the Rapture doctrine in that he declares that when the resurrection occurs the last enemy is abolished. DEATH shall be no more. Jesus said he would raise all believers on the last day. John 6:39-44. THE RAPTURE fails the test of truth as it has death for at least 1007 years afterward. For more read:
http://onlyoneauthority.blogspot.com/
Thank you

spantalk said...

You willingly omit Revelation chapters 1 through chapters 19 to get to this position and I would lay a challenge for you to show in history where all of this occurred on a world wide level not just a regional zone of Israel and Rome but world wide which is what Tribulation engulfs.

Raby said...

Here you present PROPHECY as foretelling the future, but you reject the plain words of Jesus when he said "All in the the grave will hear his voice and come forth" One event on one day-- The last day: John 5:28-29; 6:39-54.
Your challenge deals with what happens before the last day. Since you do not accept Jesus on this day then what happens between now and the last day is moot. Your challenge is to show one scripture that supports multiple resurrections before the last day.
You will not because you can not. The truth is One resurrection at the last day when death shall be no more. Not 1007 years of death with still more afterward. Accept the words of Christ and give up the false rapture doctrine. Thank You.